Novell isn’t that horrible of a company There are definitely worse, and maybe Novell will shock the world and do the unexpected with this Microsoft deal.
David’s Response to patches
Quinn Storm’s response

David’s response to Beryl
Colin’s response to David about Beryl

I never realized that Novell did have somewhat of a stronghold on the development of Compiz in the beginning (I don’t know about now). So I learned something new there. It is also interesting to see that whenever David is questioned by Quinn or Colin he doesn’t respond, just as Quinn’s initial post stated. Compiz may be doing something different now, but when the fork happened, it was a good thing. Plus it puts competition between the two to hopefully create something great.

Anywho, just wanted to share that. I of course will allow you to respond in a timely manner and we can move on. Thanks for keeping me on my toes though, as it was interesting reading between all of the mailing lists. The conference call between Quinn and David seems to be gone now. Interesting…

Whether Novell is a horrible company has, in reality, nothing to do with the reasons why berly was “forked”. Yes, David, works for Novell, but his decision to not accept Quinn’s patches was his own and not Novells. The one and only reason, for this fork, is that Quinn is one troubled individual and has some serious issues.

As I said I don’t wish to argue, but my “foolish” remark stands. Now, unless you can provide some quotes of David saying the decision to reject those patches came from above, I will consider this debate to be over (I would assume that you, like me, have more important things to do).

It was fun, but it’s time to move on…

Cheers,
/me

After the Novell XGL/Compiz team (mostly David Reveman) refused the proposition to merge the Quinnstorm changes with compiz-vanilla, the decision was made to make a real differentiation.

I would appreciate you retracting the foolish remark now. I have talked to developers on both sides because I was actually anti-composite for a long time. This is the same story I get from both sides as well.

BTW: According to Quinn, berly is not a fork, but is “based” on compiz.

And one last thing, this (compiz vs. berly) has nothing to do with Novell, and making remarks like that, just makes you look foolish, and I expect better from the likes of you.

Cheers,
/me

sect2k: this situation, Beryl and Novell/Compiz patches is way different than the Kernel for one. If Quinn’s patches were no where good enough and were not excepted for that reason, then Quinn has all the right in the world to fork over or do whatever the hell he wants and create his own variation. If the Beryl code is so bad and the Compiz code is so good, then I would think we would see more “Compiz” themes and more “Compiz” news, but all I read about that deals with composite is Beryl. Quinn did the right thing and the moral/legal thing by making his own variation and he doesn’t have some horrible company backing him either.