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		<title>By: DarkPhoenix</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkPhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a work around I invented that DOES work:

How to make Flash work with 64 bit browsers - Works for FLV type Flash Video.

We tell our 64 bit browsers to point to 32 bit programs all the time to open content. It does not Have to be embedded in the browser itself which is part of the the problem isn&#039;t it? ( aside from the fact it would not be using less resources due to it&#039;s being 32 bit)
So big deal.. just point the browser to use a 32 bit external flash application. But HOW?

I DID IT !!! Read On...

I have done more searching and I have found a working partial solution.. BUT it&#039;s the LONG way.

The trick is find a program that lets you download flash files..( I am using the free, Sothink Video Downloader) In my case it&#039;s .flv files like flash movies from You Tube I want to stream. (and I assume you are using firefox or seamonkey.. I don&#039;t yet know how to do this for an IE 64 bit browser) You won&#039;t be able to play the stream in the browser But, when your video downloader program finds the flv file on the page it will open and ask you were to download the file.. IT will have captured the .FLV URL from the you tube page.

Copy and paste that .flv url back into the address bar. (You do not have to let your downloader program finish downloading the file) At this point the Helper Application will open a dialog box and then you point the FLV extention to the external flash player of your choice. I am using the SoThink Flash Player because it&#039;s small and free and takes little resources. Also check the box that says Always use this program to open this type of file.

Now you are set up and the file will play through your external player. The next time you want to view a you tube page, simply start the flash download app you have and copy the flv url and paste it back into the browser and poof, it will play. ( You do not have to continue with the download.. we are using this video downloader just to grab the flv url. )

If you get good at this, the process will take only a few seconds to do manually. This will work with some places but not all. It only works with the commercials at the beginning of HULU tv shows.. not the tv show itself.. I think this is because the flv url is too deeply embedded. I have not tested this with Google Video, just HULU and YouTube.. But it should work as long as you can capture the .FLV URL.

Well folks it&#039;s not perfect, but it&#039;s a start. Of course until Adobe makes a windows 64 bit flash plugin it&#039;s much easier just to use the 32 bit browser.. but hey.. this was bugging me so I had to try it!

In a Nutshell: First you use a tool to capture the flv url from the page then you feed it back into the address bar so the helper application will ask you to open it with an external player.. I used SoThink Video Downloader to capture the flv url, and SoThink Flash Player to pop up and play the file.. works nice as long as you can capture the flv url.

Perhaps some of you could take this idea and help me streamline the process or figure out how to get the deeper embedded flv url from hulu and places like it.

I would like to find a way to automate the process, perhaps with an extension. I feel if all the bugs could get worked out this would be a nice alternative until Adobe makes the proper plungin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a work around I invented that DOES work:</p>
<p>How to make Flash work with 64 bit browsers &#8211; Works for FLV type Flash Video.</p>
<p>We tell our 64 bit browsers to point to 32 bit programs all the time to open content. It does not Have to be embedded in the browser itself which is part of the the problem isn&#8217;t it? ( aside from the fact it would not be using less resources due to it&#8217;s being 32 bit)<br />
So big deal.. just point the browser to use a 32 bit external flash application. But HOW?</p>
<p>I DID IT !!! Read On&#8230;</p>
<p>I have done more searching and I have found a working partial solution.. BUT it&#8217;s the LONG way.</p>
<p>The trick is find a program that lets you download flash files..( I am using the free, Sothink Video Downloader) In my case it&#8217;s .flv files like flash movies from You Tube I want to stream. (and I assume you are using firefox or seamonkey.. I don&#8217;t yet know how to do this for an IE 64 bit browser) You won&#8217;t be able to play the stream in the browser But, when your video downloader program finds the flv file on the page it will open and ask you were to download the file.. IT will have captured the .FLV URL from the you tube page.</p>
<p>Copy and paste that .flv url back into the address bar. (You do not have to let your downloader program finish downloading the file) At this point the Helper Application will open a dialog box and then you point the FLV extention to the external flash player of your choice. I am using the SoThink Flash Player because it&#8217;s small and free and takes little resources. Also check the box that says Always use this program to open this type of file.</p>
<p>Now you are set up and the file will play through your external player. The next time you want to view a you tube page, simply start the flash download app you have and copy the flv url and paste it back into the browser and poof, it will play. ( You do not have to continue with the download.. we are using this video downloader just to grab the flv url. )</p>
<p>If you get good at this, the process will take only a few seconds to do manually. This will work with some places but not all. It only works with the commercials at the beginning of HULU tv shows.. not the tv show itself.. I think this is because the flv url is too deeply embedded. I have not tested this with Google Video, just HULU and YouTube.. But it should work as long as you can capture the .FLV URL.</p>
<p>Well folks it&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s a start. Of course until Adobe makes a windows 64 bit flash plugin it&#8217;s much easier just to use the 32 bit browser.. but hey.. this was bugging me so I had to try it!</p>
<p>In a Nutshell: First you use a tool to capture the flv url from the page then you feed it back into the address bar so the helper application will ask you to open it with an external player.. I used SoThink Video Downloader to capture the flv url, and SoThink Flash Player to pop up and play the file.. works nice as long as you can capture the flv url.</p>
<p>Perhaps some of you could take this idea and help me streamline the process or figure out how to get the deeper embedded flv url from hulu and places like it.</p>
<p>I would like to find a way to automate the process, perhaps with an extension. I feel if all the bugs could get worked out this would be a nice alternative until Adobe makes the proper plungin.</p>
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		<title>By: lightinthedark</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-4827</link>
		<dc:creator>lightinthedark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a more complete answer at this site:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/64-bit-flash-plugin-699901/
There I found that by changing my sources to include Sid (unstable) I could install the alpha version of flash 10 which runs natively on a 64bit os (such as my amd64 install of Lenny). Hope it helps someone else too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a more complete answer at this site:<br />
<a href="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/64-bit-flash-plugin-699901/" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/64-bit-flash-plugin-699901/</a><br />
There I found that by changing my sources to include Sid (unstable) I could install the alpha version of flash 10 which runs natively on a 64bit os (such as my amd64 install of Lenny). Hope it helps someone else too.</p>
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		<title>By: Animesh</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-4577</link>
		<dc:creator>Animesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution is copy pasted in many sites, but it works in only 10% of the cases.

With newer firefox release 3.03 and flash 10 it doesn&#039;t work, with 64 bit.
In my system I had tried everything and nspluginwrapper closes the connection when flash pops up. about:plugins reports everything is perfect. Same issue with opera too. Any smart ideaz??

I think flash on Linux will take some time to come, coz adobe won&#039;t be supporting 64 bit for a long long time. Adobe sucks anyway. Swfdec looks promising but still a long way to go......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is copy pasted in many sites, but it works in only 10% of the cases.</p>
<p>With newer firefox release 3.03 and flash 10 it doesn&#8217;t work, with 64 bit.<br />
In my system I had tried everything and nspluginwrapper closes the connection when flash pops up. about:plugins reports everything is perfect. Same issue with opera too. Any smart ideaz??</p>
<p>I think flash on Linux will take some time to come, coz adobe won&#8217;t be supporting 64 bit for a long long time. Adobe sucks anyway. Swfdec looks promising but still a long way to go&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Deibele</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-4428</link>
		<dc:creator>James Deibele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing that Adobe continues to release new versions and not support 64-bit Linux.   I switched from XP to Vista for about a month after it was released, then went Ubuntu.  Yesterday I switched from 32-bit to 64-bit Ubuntu.   The only downside has been flash.  There are days like today, where Adobe pulled their 05/15/08 version of Version 10.  So it breaks the package &quot;flashplugin-nonfree&quot; because the package is expecting to be able to install that version.

Other than that, 64-bit seems fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing that Adobe continues to release new versions and not support 64-bit Linux.   I switched from XP to Vista for about a month after it was released, then went Ubuntu.  Yesterday I switched from 32-bit to 64-bit Ubuntu.   The only downside has been flash.  There are days like today, where Adobe pulled their 05/15/08 version of Version 10.  So it breaks the package &#8220;flashplugin-nonfree&#8221; because the package is expecting to be able to install that version.</p>
<p>Other than that, 64-bit seems fine.</p>
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		<title>By: vybeauregard.net :: news&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flash in 64-bit Environments</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-4125</link>
		<dc:creator>vybeauregard.net :: news&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flash in 64-bit Environments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a 64-bit browser running on a 64-bit platform.  At least in the Linux world.  Then I stumble upon this article, which knocks it all in with three commands.  From all the shouting the 64-bit elitists and their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a 64-bit browser running on a 64-bit platform.  At least in the Linux world.  Then I stumble upon this article, which knocks it all in with three commands.  From all the shouting the 64-bit elitists and their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: link141</title>
		<link>http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-3655</link>
		<dc:creator>link141</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, I already fixed the problem.  It turns out that Adobes latest revision of flash 9 uses Xembed, which Konqueror doesn&#039;t support.  To get flash working, I downloaded the first revision from their website (in the 70mb regression versions package) and performed the same procedure.  Flash now works beautifully in Konqueror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind, I already fixed the problem.  It turns out that Adobes latest revision of flash 9 uses Xembed, which Konqueror doesn&#8217;t support.  To get flash working, I downloaded the first revision from their website (in the 70mb regression versions package) and performed the same procedure.  Flash now works beautifully in Konqueror.</p>
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